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geneaker Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 5 |  Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:16 am Post subject: 22.5 Battery
I have a great Super Speed---and the electronic release still works!
However, I notice that Eveready has discontinued the 22.5 battery.
I used to get them at Battery Plus--no luck now. Also got them at Mid West Photo---but they stopped, too.
Any suggestons? |
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45PSS Joined: 28 Sep 2001 Posts: 4081 |  Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:24 am
using "google" as my search engine, i don't bing, and eveready 412 as the search key word and selecting eveready 412 22.5 V battery search suggestion the first link is:
http://www.batterycountry.com/ShopSite/specialty-cell.html
and the 3rd link
http://www.batteriesinaflash.com/special-application/eveready-412-carbon-zinc-22-5v-battery-neda-215-15f20-blr122
both appear to have stock available. |
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geneaker Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 5 |  Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:05 am Post subject: thanks. many thanks.
Hey, I"m back in the game. I like the electronic release more than a cable. Two years ago, I had the Rodenstock 135mm rebuilt--works perfectly! |
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Jim23 Joined: 08 Sep 2001 Posts: 129 |  Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:57 pm Post subject: Experiment, Eveready 412 22.5v Replacement
I may have found a workaround for the 412 battery discontinuance. I fabricated a small plexiglass tray that holds a pair of type N (A23) 12v alkaline batteries (inexpensive!) in series with a pair of silicon diodes (-1.4v drop) to yield 22.6 volts. I checked the voltage and will build a second one to be able to test the Super Graphic. CAUTION - this is untested and requires careful fabrication and soldering skills. Try at your own risk.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhtlr/9351125879/ |
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45PSS Joined: 28 Sep 2001 Posts: 4081 |  Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:41 pm
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Jim23 Joined: 08 Sep 2001 Posts: 129 |  Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:49 pm Post subject: Alkaline Equivalent for Discontinued 412
I found this cell:
http://www.batteriesinaflash.com/special-application/exell-412a-alkaline-22-5v-battery-neda-215-15f20-blr122
At $30 - ouch.... x 2 for the Super/Speed Graphic.
I am still pursuing my adapter that takes a pair of cheap A23 cells. |
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Rick from OZ Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 40 |  Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:23 am Post subject: Midwest photo supplies has them on their site at ~$6.87
Midwest phopto supplies has them on their site at ~$6.87
I can't guarantee stock, and since I'm in Australia, don't have a lot to do with them, but you can but try.
http://mpex.com/super-graphic-batteries-22-5volts.html
Good luck ! Rick |
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jpowersphoto Joined: 04 Jun 2014 Posts: 3 |  Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:52 pm Post subject: 22.5 volt Batteries
What about using these batteries (http://www.amazon.com/Alkaline-22-5V-Battery-BLR155-15F15/dp/B008FPCWTO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1402256898&sr=8-1&keywords=22.5+v+battery) in a custom battery compartment that fits inside the camera? |
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45PSS Joined: 28 Sep 2001 Posts: 4081 |  Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:09 am
They will not last very long if they work at all.
The solenoid, which the camera electronics power, is a current dependent device that requires 2 to 3 amps to operate. The solenoid is what trips the shutter.
The Eveready 412 is rated at 140 mAh.
The Exell 412A is rated at 180mAh. 128% of original.
http://www.amazon.com/Exell-Alkaline-22-5V-Battery-BLR122/dp/B00BNF0Y8Y/ref=pd_sim_sbs_misc_1/183-5528891-3399163?ie=UTF8&refRID=0VVD7DRT0ER1Q48MP7CX
The Exell 505 is rated at 60mAh. 42% of original.
1 mAh= 1 milliamp for an hour continuous current draw.
The batteries charge capacitors in the camera RF housing. Once charged the capacitors supply the current necessary to operate the solenoid.
The circuit will try to draw the current it needs to charge the capacitors from the batteries. Putting lower current capacity batteries in the camera will result in slower charge times which equal a longer delay between shutter trip cycles and shorter battery life.
Exceeding the original battery current capacity will give longer battery life and possibly slightly faster trip cycle times.
http://exellbattery.com/ |
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rwl7532 Joined: 01 Jan 2015 Posts: 32 |  Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:08 am Post subject: Available on eBay Two for $9.95 with free shipping - mod rqd
The ones I found on eBay come from China and require modification.
Too thick. I put a bi-metal blade on my band saw and sliced off the extra.
So the cons:
Shipping from China is slow.
Requires modification.
No band saw? A vice and belt sander should work.
www.ebay.com/itm/320928427174 |
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Markus Joined: 13 May 2015 Posts: 15 |  Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:22 pm
| Quote: | The ones I found on eBay come from China and require modification.
Too thick. I put a bi-metal blade on my band saw and sliced off the extra. |
I also bought these same China batteries from eBay (though a different seller). In my case, all I needed to do was to remove the oval sticker from the side of the battery and it did fit into my Super Graphic as is. No tools necessary. |
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rwl7532 Joined: 01 Jan 2015 Posts: 32 |  Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:30 pm
| Markus wrote: | | Quote: | The ones I found on eBay come from China and require modification.
Too thick. I put a bi-metal blade on my band saw and sliced off the extra. |
I also bought these same China batteries from eBay (though a different seller). In my case, all I needed to do was to remove the oval sticker from the side of the battery and it did fit into my Super Graphic as is. No tools necessary. |
In my first attempt I removed the metal case of each battery entirely. Still too thick.
Lenght and width (as they lay in the battery compartment) are OK. |
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rwl7532 Joined: 01 Jan 2015 Posts: 32 |  Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:36 pm
| rwl7532 wrote: | | Markus wrote: | | Quote: | The ones I found on eBay come from China and require modification.
Too thick. I put a bi-metal blade on my band saw and sliced off the extra. |
I also bought these same China batteries from eBay (though a different seller). In my case, all I needed to do was to remove the oval sticker from the side of the battery and it did fit into my Super Graphic as is. No tools necessary. |
In my first attempt I removed the metal case of each battery entirely. Still too thick.
Lenght and width (as they lay in the battery compartment) are OK. |
Oh, rats! I thought one strip of electrical tape would be enough. Must have shorted out - either touching the roof of the compartment or the core and the battery case itself.
Reorder, retry! |
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