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		| Les 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 5:04 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| below is an image of two Annie Speeds.   The one on the left is from 1944 and has a couple of speed bumps over the focus knobs.   The camera on the right is from 1941 and is smooth. 
 I'm trying to find out when these bumps developed.  For all of the people that have Anny Speeds between '41 and '44. Let's here from you!
 
 Is your Speed Bumped or not?
 
 
   
 
 
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		| RichS 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 5:07 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I wish I could tell you, but for some odd reason I don't have my Anny handy at the moment   
 Just wanted to mention that there's no pic with your message...
 
 Hey, after posting, the pic showed up... Never mind
   
 
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		| Rangemaster 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:07 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Les, 
 I have a early '42 model and it has the speed bumps on it, I wonder if they changed after the '41 production runs.
 
 Hmm interesting.
 
 Dave
 
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		| Top 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:12 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Maybe when they changed the sportsfinder? My '45 has 'em; my '41 doesn't.
 My older '40 didn't had them either.
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		| disemjg 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:28 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Both of mine have the bumps: 
 324917 black military
 
 392343 chrome trim civilian
 
 
 While I have not asked Galdalf to date them, I have always regarded the civilian camera to be a very late one. Time to ask him.
 
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		| bertsaunders 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:42 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| A lot of do-it yourselfers out there in Graphic land, this is most likely a buy 2 make one good one exercise...Or, the remote fact that F&S never waisted inventory, and found a hidden bunch of the old ones in a corner somewhere! Have a nice day.......Bert
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		| Les 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:27 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Rangemaster, 
 Do you have a serial number on that early '42?
 
 Les
 
 
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		| t.r.sanford 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:09 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| My 3¼x4¼ "Anniversary Speed", S/N 366098, does not have the "speed bump" over the focusing pinion. While looking, I observed (sorrowfully) that a hairline crack has developed over the pinion on the opposite side of the bed -- which may suggest the factory's motive in adding the bump. |  | 
	
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		| jpmose 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:57 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Les...I have performed exercises like this on Hasselblads (mainly in cooperation with Rick Nordin, who is the author of Hasselblad System Compendium).  I have found that watching all the incoming subject items on Ebay and comparing photos with serial numbers, etc. has been the most conclusive way of determining changes.  This would be my suggestion since so many appear on that site.  JP Mose |  | 
	
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		| glennfromwy 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:56 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I believe the thicker ones may have been factory replacements. As Mr Sanford said, they crack right over the focus pinion shaft.  have a couple with cracks. Doesn't seem to bother anything, though. 
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		| Rangemaster 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:55 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | On 2005-11-14 20:27, Les wrote:
 Rangemaster,
 
 Do you have a serial number on that early '42?
 
 Les
 
 
 
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 Les,
 
 I have it lent out to a friend right now, when I get it back I will send you the serial number.
 
 Dave
 
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		| disemjg 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:16 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Gandalf has now dated my two cameras as '43 and '46. 
 Bert's comment about early examples with the bumps being the product of salvage efforts makes sense, especially if the flat plates were found to be weak. Also, as the early cameras came in for factory overhaul cracked plates would have been replaced with the updated part.
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		| disemjg 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:49 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| And another thing... TR mentioned that his 3X4s did not have the bumps. So I checked the two that I have, and they also did not have the bumps. I have never seen a 3X4 with them; perhaps the "fix" was only done for the 4X5 cameras. 
 Has anyone ever seen a 3X4 with the bumps?
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		| Les 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:43 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| None of my 3x4s have them either, but this part is so much smaller that I doubt it got the strain the 4x5 version did from the focus knob bumping on things. 
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		| wlewisiii 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:57 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I have a '43 (326717 w/date per Gandalf) 4x5 with the "speed bumps". 
 Hope that's of some help.
 
 William
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