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		| lunaaron 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 6:51 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I have a miniature speed graphic with a home made graflok back modeled after an 2x3 XL Graflok back - ie spring loaded sliders . Is there a polaroid back that will fit this type of camera and am i looking for something that costs a bomb OR will be impossible to find film for?
 cheers, aaron
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		| glennfromwy 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:18 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I think you are going to have trouble finding such a thing. I often wondered if a Polaroid back for a Mamiya RB-67 could be adapted. I'm sure I've seen backs for the XL but if memory serves, the entire back of the camera is removed and replaced by the Polaroid holder. I don't think it fits on the Graflok. 
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		| 45PSS 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 1:46 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Mamiya RB body has 4 pins, 2 top and 2 bottom, that are about 1/4 at the outer edge then decrease to 3/16 about 1/16 inward from the outer edge.  The "P" adaptor fits on the pins and locks and the other side of the "P" adaptor is the graflok where the roll film holder goes.  NPC polaroid back fits on the pins like a "P" adaptor.  Mamiya polaroid backs are pricey and can be found without the "P" adaptor. Charles
 
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		| lunaaron 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 4:22 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I just spent the last few months  building a new Graflok back for my mini speed, The actual XL back that i based it on has different proportions to a speed graphic back so it would seem that the XL polaroid will not fit without some serious reconstruction. So there are no 2x3 polaroid backs that use the graflok sliders?
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		| t.r.sanford 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 5:57 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I don't think so. The available Polaroid films are too big to fit between the rails of a 2¼x3¼ "Graflok" back. 
 In the 1950s, Polaroid briefly offered a 2¼x3¼ rollfilm to work with a camera that looked very much like a downsized "95"; I think it was called "Highlander." Unfortunately, it did not catch on, so the format didn't make the transition to filmpacks.
 
 It wouldn't be very difficult to made a standoff that would latch into the "Graflok" back and hold a 3¼x4¼ Polaroid "405" adapter, with its own suitably-spaced groundglass. Old-timers will remember the Polaroid rollfilm adapter and GG spacer for 4x5 "Graflok" backs.
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		| Stilagrrl 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 5:21 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Hi Aaron, 
 You might want to check out this thread:
 
 http://graflex.org/helpboard/viewtopic.php?topic=2022&forum=1
 
 as it appears there are/were a couple of Polaroid backs available for 2x3 Graflok backs.  The Horseman back does come up on eBay once in a while, but they're not cheap.  I ended up building my own by buying a 2x3 Graflex Packfilm Adapter and mating that to one of the newer Polaroid packfilm backs.  You do need to move your lens back to match the offset of the packfilm's film plane, but if you pick up an extra set of infinity stops, it's not a big deal.
 
 Rachel
 
 
 
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